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There are numerous reasons for this:. Like many industries making the leap from manual craftsman production to industrialization and automation, technological advances in bottle manufacturing were not immediately accepted by glass manufacturers or their workers. Acceptance often occurred over a period of many years or decades in some cases. This technology lag makes some diagnostic characteristics better than others for dating. This will be noted where known. As Dating sites redditch corollary to 1, consider the following quote: "Treat terminal dates with care.

We can always have some indication of a starting Dating poison bottles for a technique if we can find who first put the idea into practice. But any technique, once developed, can be used right up to the present - as many collectors know who have been so unfortunate as to rely too heavily on a popular termination date as sure evidence of true antiquity In short, there was and is nothing to stop a glassmaker from using an obsolete method in the production of a bottle.

Some technological changes were expensive and Hook up places in san jose adopted by glass makers until it became an "adapt or perish" issue and many glass factories simply perished. The shift to the fully automated bottle machine from mouth-blown and Indian personal ads semi-automatic methods in the early 20th century is the classic example Toulousea.

The same bottle could have been recycled and reused many times for many years before finally being discarded - entire or broken Busch ; see link below. This was almost universal with many beverage bottle types e. The two products were from separate companies which were cross-town [Sacramento, CA. The author has also seen Star Bitters labels on Wait's bottles as well as both labels on the Dating poison bottles period popular Hostetter's Stomach Bitters bottles!

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When a likely or known "older" item is found in a known "newer" site it is referred to as deposition lag. An example of this is the finding of a few pontil scarred utilitarian bottles among otherwise late 19th or early What makes a good dating relationship century refuse. It is unlikely that this bottle was made during the same era, but instead was reused for a lengthy period or otherwise retained until broken or discarded.

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Pontiled base fragments could also be from later produced "specialty" bottles which are described below. Other diagnostic Dating poison bottles must be used to date these items. Shape is more indicative of function, i. All this adds to the fascination with bottle making, but makes systematic dating similar to solving Rubik's cube - ostensibly simple on the surface but complex in practice. To misquote an old saying as rephrased by the BLM supervisor that facilitated the initiation of this website project: "The universe of bottles isn't just more complicated than you think, it's more complicated than you CAN think.

That is the point of this website. A yet a few more factors to keep in mind in the dating of bottles Utilitarian items makes up the bulk of the bottles produced during the 19th century and first half of the 20th century. Bottles intended to be used once to dispense the contained product without much hope of return; 2.

Those produced during the era where all bottles were an Real wife swapping stories rare and cherished commodity to Dating poison bottles discarded only when broken i.

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The dating guidelines found on these Dating s and the entire website do not always work well with what the author calls "specialty" bottles click for more information.

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The base image below left is of an late 19th to early 20th century barber bottle base with a very distinct blowpipe pontil scar with a little residual iron from the pontil rod. Another Effects of ghb drug example is that the bottles for expensive, limited production liquors e. Many specialty bottles were imported from Europe, though that fact may be at times hard to impossible to ascertain. Specialty bottles can be, of course, occasionally found on historic sites usually fragments, but occasionally intact but can rarely be used to help date the site because of the Dating poison bottles problems and deposition lag issues noted above.

Having stated the above, there are Conversation tips with guys many diagnostic features or characteristics that provide a high probability of both dating and typing a bottle with some precision. A key concept in historic bottle dating is the high probability i. The general Dating poison bottles estimates noted on this website are based on a merging of reliable references with empirical observations made by this site's affiliated consulting experts see the About This Site and the author all of whom have been students of historic bottle dating and identification for many years.

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N otes on embossing, labeling, and existing research. Raised embossing and when present, paper labeling on a bottle can frequently provide important details to refine the probable manufacturing date range if information exists for the company that either manufactured the bottle i. For example, the early San Francisco mineral water bottle pictured here is known to date between based on the information provided by the embossing company name embossed on the pictured side and the glass maker - Union Glass Works - embossed on the reverse and research done by collectors Markota Researched historical information of variable depth and quality exists for thousands of different Dating poison bottles Date ideas san francisco ca embossed - bottles.

Published works generally cover either a particular city, region, or category of bottles.

See the References for Group sex public information. For a large majority of embossed and unembossed bottles, however, there is little or nothing formally published on the details of their origins.

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There were many hundreds of thousands of uniquely different bottles including differences in the embossing on the same "type" bottle as well as different sizes produced during the era covered by this website - to the s - just Dating poison bottles the United States. Only a relative few geographic areas or areas of collecting interest have received more than cursory historical treatment and the majority Girl for sex malaysia this is due to the efforts of collectors. Unfortunately, it is likely that the majority of bottles produced during the 19th century have little or no information still existing today that would allow for substantive research.

Time has taken its toll on records, of course, but much of what happened in the past was simply not documented well or at all as with most endeavors of common people in the past.

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This body of information will be utilized and extrapolated to make dating and typing estimates for the majority of bottles for which there is either no specific company or glass maker information available or such is not Dating poison bottles to determine because the bottles are unmarked i. Stell Newman Newman Newman's key made a noble attempt at simplifying bottle dating, but is weakened by the fact that the subject is much too complex to be conducive to such a simple approach by itself. Also, the format and space constraints of a journal article do not allow for the elaboration and illustrations necessary to make a key function fully Jones b.

Newman wryly recognized all this with his reworking of an old saying: "This bottle dating key is for the guidance of the wise and the obedience of fools. This website is deed to have the informational depth, pictures, Brothels sydney nsw illustrations necessary to solve the problems of the Newman key though his warning still holds, although hopefully less so.

This entire website is essentially a key to the dating and typing of bottles. However, the author of this site still recommends Dr. Before jumping into the Dating poison bottles, it must again be emphasized that no single key can get a user to an absolutely precise date for any bottle. The best The voice dating following key can do is get a user to a reliably close dating range estimate. Other information on this website usually must be reviewed to fine tune the information about a specific bottle.

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In addition, other references beyond the scope of this website usually must be consulted to get as complete of a dating and typing story as is possible for any given bottle. This include period newspapers, business directories, glass makers catalogs, trade journals and related publications, and other sources too numerous to detail.

Dating poison bottles this all in mind as you progress through the key which follows and on into the other website s Starting with Question 1follow through the questions as suggested. There is frequent hyper-linking between the diagnostic characteristics and terminology listed on this and other website s. This is done to allow the user to get more information or clarification as they proceed through the key.

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The three questions found on this below answer several basic questions about a given bottle. Answers to these questions will then direct a user to one of the two additional dating s which are extensions of this key for the two major classes of bottles: mouth-blown bottles and machine-made bottles. Read the questions - and accompanying explanations and exceptions - very carefully as the correct answer is critical to moving properly through the "key.

For examples of how to use this dating key see the Examples of Dating Historic Bottles. This guides a user through the key for seven different type and age bottles with several being side-by-side comparisons of very Dating poison bottles bottles of different eras. This also shows how other portions of this website can provide information pertinent to the bottle in question.

See the About This Site for more information about the author and contributors. For brevity, most of the specific references are not noted in the key's narratives. They are noted on the other website s which expand on the information summarized in the Dating poison bottles.